Saccharinity with ccc

Abstract

Using creature technology, we construct families of Suslin ccc non-sweet forcing notions Q such that ZFC is equiconsistent with ZF+"every set of reals equals a Borel set modulo the (≤ 1)-closure of the null ideal associated with Q"+"there is an ω1-sequence of distinct reals". This answers a question of the second author and Kellner. As an application of independent interest, we also show how our forcing adds a new Π12 singleton over L without relying on L-combinatorics.

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