MA (I) and a Failure of Separation on the third Level

Abstract

We present a method which forces the failure of 13 and 13-separation, while MA (I) holds, for I the family of indestructible ccc forcings. This shows that, in contrast to the assumption BPFA and 1=1L which implies 13-separation, that weaker forcing axioms do not decide separation on the third projective level.

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