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Radicals and Plotkin's problem concerning geometrically equivalent groups

Rüdiger Göbel, Saharon Shelah

math.GRarXiv:math/0010303

Abstract

If G and X are groups and N is a normal subgroup of X, then the G-closure of N in X is the normal subgroup XG= bigcapkerphi|phi:X-> G, with N subseteq kerphi of X . In particular, 1G = RG X is the G-radical of X. Plotkin calls two groups G and H geometrically equivalent, written G H, if for any free group F of finite rank and any normal subgroup N of F the G-closure and the H-closure of N in F are the same. Quasiidentities are formulas of the form (bigwedgei<=nwi=1 -> w =1) for any words w, wi (i<=n) in a free group. Generally geometrically equivalent groups satisfy the same quasiidentiies. Plotkin showed that nilpotent groups G and H satisfy the same quasiidenties if and only if G and H are geometrically equivalent. Hence he conjectured that this might hold for any pair of groups. We provide a counterexample.

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