Two statements about infinite products that are not quite true

Abstract

Hard to summarize concisely; here are the high points. The first two statements below are ring-theoretic; in these R is a nontrivial ring, Rω, and ω R are the direct product, respectively direct sum, of countably many copies of R; the remaining two statements are in the context of general algebra (a.k.a. universal algebra): (i) There exist nontrivial rings R for which one has surjective homomorphisms ω R -> Rω -- but in such cases, Rω is in fact finitely generated as a left R-module. (ii) There exist nontrivial rings R for which one has surjective homomorphisms Rω -> ω R -- but in such cases, R must have DCC on finitely generated right ideals. (iii) The full permutation group S on an infinite set has the property that the ||-fold direct product of copies of S is generated over its diagonal subgroup by a single element. (iv) Whenever an algebra S in the sense of universal algebra has the property that the countable direct product Sω is finitely generated over its diagonal subalgebra (or even when the corresponding property holds with an ultrapower in place of this direct product), S has some of the other strange properties known to hold for infinite symmetric groups (cf. math.GR/0401304).

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