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Stationary sets and infinitary logic

Saharon Shelah, Jouko Väänänen

math.LOarXiv:math/9706225

Abstract

Let K0lambda be the class of structures < lambda,<,A>, where A subseteq lambda is disjoint from a club, and let K1lambda be the class of structures < lambda,<,A>, where A subseteq lambda contains a club. We prove that if lambda = lambda< kappa is regular, then no sentence of Llambda+ kappa separates K0lambda and K1lambda. On the other hand, we prove that if lambda = mu+, mu = mu< mu, and a forcing axiom holds (and aleph1L= aleph1 if mu = aleph0), then there is a sentence of Llambda lambda which separates K0lambda and K1lambda .

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