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On distinguishing quotients of symmetric groups

John Truss, Saharon Shelah

math.LOarXiv:math/9805147

Abstract

A study is carried out of the elementary theory of quotients of symmetric groups in a similar spirit to [Sh:24]. Apart from the trivial and alternating subgroups, the normal subgroups of the full symmetric group S(mu) on an infinite cardinal mu are all of the form Skappa(mu)= the subgroup consisting of elements whose support has cardinality <kappa for some kappa <= mu+. A many-sorted structure Mkappa lambda mu is defined which, it is shown, encapsulates the first order properties of the group Slambda (mu)/Skappa (mu). Specifically, these two structures are (uniformly) bi-interpretable, where the interpretation of Mkappa lambda mu in Slambda(mu)/Skappa(mu) is in the usual sense, but in the other direction is in a weaker sense, which is nevertheless sufficient to transfer elementary equivalence. By considering separately the cases cf(kappa) > 2aleph0, cf(kappa) <= 2aleph0< kappa, aleph0< kappa < 2aleph0, and kappa = aleph0, we make a further analysis of the first order theory of Slambda(mu)/Skappa(mu), introducing many-sorted second order structures N2kappa lambda mu, all of whose sorts have cardinality at most 2aleph0 .

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